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SEASON: 1911-12

Prev Season: 1910-11
This Season: 1911-12
Next Season: 1912-13

DIVISION: English Second Division (Tier 2)

MANAGER(s):: Fred Earp
FA Cup:: 1st Round (Bradford Park Avenue (H) 0-1)

Top Goalscorer:: Grenville Morris (10 goals)

TABLE

SECOND DIVISION (Tier 2) - 1911-12

SEASON END TABLE								Home					Away								Results
Pos	Team	P	W	D	L	F	A	W	D	L	F	A	W	D	L	F	A	GD	Pts	Result	Home	Away
1	Derby County	38	23	8	7	74	28	15	2	2	55	13	8	6	5	19	15	2.64286	54	Promoted as Champions	1-3	0-1
2	Chelsea	38	24	6	8	64	34	15	2	2	36	13	9	4	6	28	21	1.88235	54	Promoted	2-3	0-2
3	Burnley	38	22	8	8	77	41	14	5	0	50	14	8	3	8	27	27	1.87805	52		0-1	0-2
4	Clapton Orient	38	21	3	14	61	44	16	0	3	44	14	5	3	11	17	30	1.38636	45		3-0	2-0
5	Wolverhampton Wanderers	38	16	10	12	57	33	12	3	4	41	10	4	7	8	16	23	1.72727	42		0-0	0-1
6	Barnsley	38	15	12	11	45	42	10	5	4	28	19	5	7	7	17	23	1.07143	42		0-2	0-1
7	Hull City	38	17	8	13	54	51	12	3	4	36	13	5	5	9	18	38	1.05882	42		0-0	1-2
8	Fulham	38	16	7	15	66	58	10	3	6	42	24	6	4	9	24	34	1.13793	39		1-1	0-2
9	Grimsby Town	38	15	9	14	48	55	9	6	4	24	18	6	3	10	24	37	.87273	39		1-0	4-1
10	Leicester Fosse	38	15	7	16	49	66	11	4	4	34	18	4	3	12	15	48	.74242	37		4-1	1-1
11	Bradford Park Avenue	38	13	9	16	44	45	10	5	4	30	16	3	4	12	14	29	.97778	35		2-1	1-2
12	Birmingham City	38	14	6	18	55	59	11	3	5	44	29	3	3	13	11	30	.93220	34		0-1	2-4
13	Bristol City	38	14	6	18	41	60	11	4	4	27	17	3	2	14	14	43	.68333	34		2-0	2-2
14	Blackpool	38	13	8	17	32	52	12	4	3	24	12	1	4	14	8	40	.61538	34		2-1	0-2
15	Nottingham Forest	38	13	7	18	46	48	9	3	7	26	18	4	4	11	20	30	.95833	33
16	Stockport County	38	11	11	16	47	54	8	5	6	31	22	3	6	10	16	32	.87037	33		1-2	2-2
17	Huddersfield Town	38	13	6	19	50	64	8	5	6	30	22	5	1	13	20	42	.78125	32		3-0	2-1
18	Glossop North End	38	8	12	18	42	56	6	8	5	33	23	2	4	13	9	33	.75000	28	Re-elected	0-1	0-0
19	Leeds City	38	10	8	20	50	78	7	6	6	21	22	3	2	14	29	56	.64103	28	Re-elected	2-1	1-3
20	Gainsborough Trinity	38	5	13	20	30	64	4	6	9	17	22	1	7	11	13	42	.46875	23	Failed re-election	2-0	2-1

Points per win: 2

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LEAGUE POSITIONS

GOALS
Goals scored, conceded and win and loss margins

Goal count:	1 goal	2 goals	3 goals	4 goals
Scored	8 times	12 times	2 times	2 times
Conceded	16 times	10 times	3 times	1 time
Won By	6 times	3 times	4 times
Lost By	11 times	8 times

LEAGUE POSITION ANALYSIS
Analysis of the league positions
This table shows:
(a) how many days we spent in each of the league positions
(b) how we did when we played teams in each of the league positions.

Position days		Record against teams in each position
Forest Pos	Num Days	Opp Pos	P	W	D	L	F	A	Points	Results (Green=win; Blue=draw; Red=loss)
1		1	2	1	-	1	3	2	2	Burnley (0-2), Clapton Orient (3-0)
2		2	3	-	1	2	3	6	1	Hull City (0-0), Derby County (1-3), Chelsea (2-3)
3		3	3	-	-	3	0	3	0	Wolverhampton Wanderers (0-1), Burnley (0-1), Derby County (0-1)
4		4	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
5	7	5	2	1	-	1	3	2	2	Clapton Orient (2-0), Hull City (1-2)
6	17	6	4	2	1	1	8	4	5	Leicester Fosse (4-1), Wolverhampton Wanderers (0-0), Grimsby Town (4-1), Barnsley (0-2)
7	6	7	2	-	-	2	0	3	0	Chelsea (0-2), Barnsley (0-1)
8	42	8	1	1	-	-	2	1	2	Huddersfield Town (2-1)
9	37	9	2	1	1	-	2	1	3	Grimsby Town (1-0), Fulham (1-1)
10	48	10	2	1	-	1	2	3	2	Bradford Park Avenue (2-1), Fulham (0-2)
11	21	11	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
12	46	12	1	1	-	-	3	0	2	Huddersfield Town (3-0)
13	7	13	1	-	-	1	1	2	0	Bradford Park Avenue (1-2)
14	7	14	1	-	-	1	1	2	0	Stockport County (1-2)
15	2	15	2	2	-	-	4	1	4	Blackpool (2-1), Bristol City (2-0)
16		16	1	-	-	1	0	2	0	Blackpool (0-2)
17		17	2	-	1	1	3	5	1	Bristol City (2-2), Leeds City (1-3)
18		18	5	1	2	2	7	9	4	Gainsborough Trinity (2-1), Birmingham City (0-1), Stockport County (2-2), Leicester Fosse (1-1), Birmingham
19		19	2	1	-	1	2	1	2	Gainsborough Trinity (2-0), Glossop North End (0-1)
20		20	1	-	1	-	0	0	1	Glossop North End (0-0)

Not included: Week 1 game against Leeds City (2-1) as all teams were unplaced at the time

GAMES

Manager for all games: Fred Earp
League

Week	Date	Opponent	H/A	Score	Att	Pos	Scorers
1	Sat Sep 02, 1911	Leeds City	H	2-1	10,000	6	Morris (?, ?)
2	Sat Sep 09, 1911	Wolverhampton Wanderers	A	0-1	12,000	12
3	Sat Sep 16, 1911	Leicester Fosse	H	4-1	12,000	8	Hooper (?), Derrick (?), Saunders (?), Morris (?)
4	Sat Sep 23, 1911	Gainsborough Trinity	A	2-1	5,000	6	Derrick (?), Morris (?)
5	Sat Sep 30, 1911	Grimsby Town	H	1-0	12,000	5	Morris (?)
6	Sat Oct 07, 1911	Burnley	A	0-2	15,000	8
7	Sat Oct 14, 1911	Chelsea	A	0-2	20,000	10
8	Sat Oct 21, 1911	Clapton Orient	H	3-0	8,000	9	Mercer (?), Saunders (?), Armstrong (?)
9	Sat Oct 28, 1911	Bristol City	A	2-2	7,000	9	Ford (?), Banks (?)
10	Sat Nov 04, 1911	Birmingham City	H	0-1	14,000	10
11	Sat Nov 11, 1911	Huddersfield Town	A	2-1	4,000	8	Firth (?), Banks (?)
12	Sat Nov 18, 1911	Blackpool	H	2-1	8,000	6	Condrey (?, ?)
13	Sat Nov 25, 1911	Glossop North End	A	0-0	2,000	8
14	Sat Dec 02, 1911	Hull City	H	0-0	12,000	8
15	Sat Dec 09, 1911	Barnsley	A	0-1	5,000	9
16	Sat Dec 16, 1911	Bradford Park Avenue	H	2-1	8,000	8	Hooper (?), Derrick (?)
17	Sat Dec 23, 1911	Fulham	A	0-2	10,000	9
18	Mon Dec 25, 1911	Stockport County	A	2-2	6,000	9	Mercer (?), Firth (?)
19	Tue Dec 26, 1911	Derby County	H	1-3	35,000	9	Ford (?)
20	Sat Dec 30, 1911	Leeds City	A	1-3	8,000	11	Needham (?)
21	Sat Jan 06, 1912	Wolverhampton Wanderers	H	0-0	2,000	12
22	Sat Jan 27, 1912	Gainsborough Trinity	H	2-0	7,000	11	Derrick (?), Saunders (?)
23	Sat Feb 10, 1912	Burnley	H	0-1	9,000	12
24	Sat Feb 17, 1912	Chelsea	H	2-3	9,000	13	Derrick (?), Morris (?)
25	Sat Feb 24, 1912	Clapton Orient	A	2-0	12,000	10	Saunders (?), Morris (?)
26	Thu Feb 29, 1912	Leicester Fosse	A	1-1	9,000	10	Ford (?)
27	Sat Mar 02, 1912	Bristol City	H	2-0	8,000	10	Gibson (?), Morris (?)
28	Sat Mar 09, 1912	Birmingham City	A	2-4	10,000	10	Mercer (?), Derrick (?)
29	Sat Mar 16, 1912	Huddersfield Town	H	3-0	10,000	9	Williams (?), Morris (?, ?)
30	Thu Mar 21, 1912	Grimsby Town	A	4-1	3,000	7	Firth (?), Saunders (?, ?), Ford (?)
31	Sat Mar 23, 1912	Blackpool	A	0-2	4,000	9
32	Sat Mar 30, 1912	Glossop North End	H	0-1	5,000	10
33	Sat Apr 06, 1912	Hull City	A	1-2	7,000	10	Firth (?)
34	Mon Apr 08, 1912	Stockport County	H	1-2	5,000	10	Gibson (?)
35	Tue Apr 09, 1912	Derby County	A	0-1	14,000	11
36	Sat Apr 13, 1912	Barnsley	H	0-2	7,000	12
37	Sat Apr 20, 1912	Bradford Park Avenue	A	1-2	6,000	14	Gibson (?)
38	Sat Apr 27, 1912	Fulham	H	1-1	3,000	15	Banks (?)

FA Cup

Date	Opponent	Round	Replay	H/A	Score	Att	Scorers
Sat Jan 13, 1912	Bradford Park Avenue	1		H	0-1	12,027

Friendly

Date	Opponent	Country	H/A	Score	Att	Scorers
Thu Oct 12, 1911	Hillhurst Athletic	Canada	H	4-1	2,000	Blythe (?, ?, ?), Watkin (?)
Mon Jan 01, 1912	Linfield Athletic	Northern Ireland	A	1-2	5,000	Ford (?)
Sat May 04, 1912	Oxford City	England	A	3-1	-	Ford (?), Lane (?), Derrick (?)

Date	Game Type	Opponent	Round	H/A	Score	Att	Scorers
Manager: Fred Earp
Sat Sep 02, 1911	League Tier 2	Leeds City		H	2-1	10,000	Morris (?, ?)
Sat Sep 09, 1911	League Tier 2	Wolverhampton Wanderers		A	0-1	12,000
Sat Sep 16, 1911	League Tier 2	Leicester Fosse		H	4-1	12,000	Hooper (?), Derrick (?), Saunders (?), Morris (?)
Sat Sep 23, 1911	League Tier 2	Gainsborough Trinity		A	2-1	5,000	Derrick (?), Morris (?)
Sat Sep 30, 1911	League Tier 2	Grimsby Town		H	1-0	12,000	Morris (?)
Sat Oct 07, 1911	League Tier 2	Burnley		A	0-2	15,000
Thu Oct 12, 1911	Friendly	Hillhurst Athletic		H	4-1	2,000	Blythe (?, ?, ?), Watkin (?)
Sat Oct 14, 1911	League Tier 2	Chelsea		A	0-2	20,000
Sat Oct 21, 1911	League Tier 2	Clapton Orient		H	3-0	8,000	Mercer (?), Saunders (?), Armstrong (?)
Sat Oct 28, 1911	League Tier 2	Bristol City		A	2-2	7,000	Ford (?), Banks (?)
Sat Nov 04, 1911	League Tier 2	Birmingham City		H	0-1	14,000
Sat Nov 11, 1911	League Tier 2	Huddersfield Town		A	2-1	4,000	Firth (?), Banks (?)
Sat Nov 18, 1911	League Tier 2	Blackpool		H	2-1	8,000	Condrey (?, ?)
Sat Nov 25, 1911	League Tier 2	Glossop North End		A	0-0	2,000
Sat Dec 02, 1911	League Tier 2	Hull City		H	0-0	12,000
Sat Dec 09, 1911	League Tier 2	Barnsley		A	0-1	5,000
Sat Dec 16, 1911	League Tier 2	Bradford Park Avenue		H	2-1	8,000	Hooper (?), Derrick (?)
Sat Dec 23, 1911	League Tier 2	Fulham		A	0-2	10,000
Mon Dec 25, 1911	League Tier 2	Stockport County		A	2-2	6,000	Mercer (?), Firth (?)
Tue Dec 26, 1911	League Tier 2	Derby County		H	1-3	35,000	Ford (?)
Sat Dec 30, 1911	League Tier 2	Leeds City		A	1-3	8,000	Needham (?)
Mon Jan 01, 1912	Friendly	Linfield Athletic		A	1-2	5,000	Ford (?)
Sat Jan 06, 1912	League Tier 2	Wolverhampton Wanderers		H	0-0	2,000
Sat Jan 13, 1912	FA Cup	Bradford Park Avenue	1	H	0-1	12,027
Sat Jan 27, 1912	League Tier 2	Gainsborough Trinity		H	2-0	7,000	Derrick (?), Saunders (?)
Sat Feb 10, 1912	League Tier 2	Burnley		H	0-1	9,000
Sat Feb 17, 1912	League Tier 2	Chelsea		H	2-3	9,000	Derrick (?), Morris (?)
Sat Feb 24, 1912	League Tier 2	Clapton Orient		A	2-0	12,000	Saunders (?), Morris (?)
Thu Feb 29, 1912	League Tier 2	Leicester Fosse		A	1-1	9,000	Ford (?)
Sat Mar 02, 1912	League Tier 2	Bristol City		H	2-0	8,000	Gibson (?), Morris (?)
Sat Mar 09, 1912	League Tier 2	Birmingham City		A	2-4	10,000	Mercer (?), Derrick (?)
Sat Mar 16, 1912	League Tier 2	Huddersfield Town		H	3-0	10,000	Williams (?), Morris (?, ?)
Thu Mar 21, 1912	League Tier 2	Grimsby Town		A	4-1	3,000	Firth (?), Saunders (?, ?), Ford (?)
Sat Mar 23, 1912	League Tier 2	Blackpool		A	0-2	4,000
Sat Mar 30, 1912	League Tier 2	Glossop North End		H	0-1	5,000
Sat Apr 06, 1912	League Tier 2	Hull City		A	1-2	7,000	Firth (?)
Mon Apr 08, 1912	League Tier 2	Stockport County		H	1-2	5,000	Gibson (?)
Tue Apr 09, 1912	League Tier 2	Derby County		A	0-1	14,000
Sat Apr 13, 1912	League Tier 2	Barnsley		H	0-2	7,000
Sat Apr 20, 1912	League Tier 2	Bradford Park Avenue		A	1-2	6,000	Gibson (?)
Sat Apr 27, 1912	League Tier 2	Fulham		H	1-1	3,000	Banks (?)
Sat May 04, 1912	Friendly	Oxford City		A	3-1	-	Ford (?), Lane (?), Derrick (?)

	Possession %	On Target	Off Target	Corners	Fouls	Saves
Date	Opponent	Round	Replay	H/A	Score	Att	Us	Opp	Us	Opp	Us	Opp	Us	Opp	Us	Opp	Us	Opp
Sat Jan 13, 1912	Bradford Park Avenue	1		H	0-1	12,027

	Possession %	On Target	Off Target	Corners	Fouls	Saves
Date	Opponent	Country	H/A	Score	Att	Us	Opp	Us	Opp	Us	Opp	Us	Opp	Us	Opp	Us	Opp
Thu Oct 12, 1911	Hillhurst Athletic	Canada	H	4-1	2,000
Mon Jan 01, 1912	Linfield Athletic	Northern Ireland	A	1-2	5,000
Sat May 04, 1912	Oxford City	England	A	3-1	-

TRANSFERS
Transfers before, during and immediately after the season.

In (15) - £0				Out (11) - £0
Date	Player	Details	Fee	Date	Player	Details	Fee
	Albert Dodson	Bought			Albert Dodson	Sold
	Alexander Hamilton	Bought			Blythe	Sold
	Blythe	Bought			Daniel McCann	Sold
	Daniel McCann	Bought			Frank Langham	Sold
	Frank Langham	Bought			Frank Saunders	Sold
	Frank Saunders	Bought			Fred Condrey	Sold
	Fred Condrey	Bought		1912	Harold Poole	Sold
	Harold Poole	Bought			Jack Williams	Sold
July 1911	Jack Hanna	Bought			Stanway	Sold
	Jack Williams	Bought			William Walker	Sold
	Stanway	Bought		August 1912	Bill Hooper	Sold
	William Walker	Bought
1911	Harry Lane (1912)	Bought
1911	Sticker Banks	Bought
Oct 07, 1911	Robert Firth	Bought

SQUAD

*Age = Player age on August 1st					Season Record (Competitive Games only)
Pos	Num	Player	Country	Age*	P	W	D	L	Goals	Yellows	Reds	Went Off	Came On	Unused Sub	Notes
Goalkeepers
GK		Alexander Hamilton	England	20	6	1	1	4
GK		Jack Hanna	Ireland	23	33	12	6	15
Defenders
D		Albert Dodson			1			1
D		Frank Langham			2			2
D		Harry Jones	England	20
D		Joe Mercer	England	22	37	13	7	17	3
D		Prestwood Machin			1		1
D		Stanway			1		1
Midfielders
M		Alfred Fisher			22	8	5	9
M		Blythe			1			1
M		Daniel McCann	England	23	1	1
M		George Maltby	England		13	7	1	5
M		Harold Poole			1			1
M		Jack Williams			4	1		3	1
M		Robert Firth	England	24	32	9	7	16	4
M		Thomas Gibson	Scotland	22	37	12	6	19	3
M		Walter Dudley	England	30	28	7	6	15
Forwards
F		Bill Hooper	England	27	11	5		6	2
F		Frank Saunders	England	23	28	10	3	15	6
F		Fred Condrey	Wales		9	2	3	4	2
F		George Needham	England		39	13	7	19	1
F		Grenville Morris	Wales	34	19	10	2	7	10
F		Jack Armstrong	England	27	22	7	4	11	1
F		Joe Ford	England	25	24	7	4	13	4
F		John Derrick	England	19	38	12	7	19	6
F		Sticker Banks	England	22	18	6	6	6	3
F		William Walker			1			1

		Frank Watkin
		Harrison (1912)
		Harry Lane (1912)	England	16

GOALSCORERS

Number of different scorers: 15

Goals (Pens)	Player	Games
10	Grenville Morris	19
6	Frank Saunders	28
6	John Derrick	38
4	Joe Ford	24
4	Robert Firth	32
3	Joe Mercer	37
3	Sticker Banks	18
3	Thomas Gibson	37
2	Bill Hooper	11
2	Fred Condrey	9
1	George Needham	39
1	Jack Armstrong	22
1	Jack Williams	4

LEAGUE DOUBLES (FOR)
Home and away victories for the season

	Game 1			Game 2
Opponent	Date	H/A	Score	Date	H/A	Score
Clapton Orient	Sat Oct 21, 1911	Home	3-0	Sat Feb 24, 1912	Away	2-0
Gainsborough Trinity	Sat Sep 23, 1911	Away	2-1	Sat Jan 27, 1912	Home	2-0
Grimsby Town	Sat Sep 30, 1911	Home	1-0	Thu Mar 21, 1912	Away	4-1
Huddersfield Town	Sat Nov 11, 1911	Away	2-1	Sat Mar 16, 1912	Home	3-0

LEAGUE DOUBLES (AGAINST)
Home and away losses for the season

	Game 1			Game 2
Opponent	Date	H/A	Score	Date	H/A	Score
Barnsley	Sat Dec 09, 1911	Away	0-1	Sat Apr 13, 1912	Home	0-2
Birmingham City	Sat Nov 04, 1911	Home	0-1	Sat Mar 09, 1912	Away	2-4
Burnley	Sat Oct 07, 1911	Away	0-2	Sat Feb 10, 1912	Home	0-1
Chelsea	Sat Oct 14, 1911	Away	0-2	Sat Feb 17, 1912	Home	2-3
Derby County	Tue Dec 26, 1911	Home	1-3	Tue Apr 09, 1912	Away	0-1