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SEASON: 1908-09

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This Season: 1908-09
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DIVISION: English First Division (Tier 1)

MANAGER(s):: Harry Hallam
FA Cup:: Quarter Final (Derby County (A) 0-3)

Top Goalscorer:: Enoch West (25 goals)

TABLE

FIRST DIVISION (Tier 1) - 1908-09

SEASON END TABLE								Home					Away								Results
Pos	Team	P	W	D	L	F	A	W	D	L	F	A	W	D	L	F	A	GD	Pts	Result	Home	Away
1	Newcastle United	38	24	5	9	65	41	14	1	4	32	20	10	4	5	33	21	1.58537	53		0-4	1-1
2	Everton	38	18	10	10	82	57	11	3	5	51	28	7	7	5	31	29	1.43860	46		1-2	3-3
3	Sunderland	38	21	2	15	78	63	14	0	5	41	23	7	2	10	37	40	1.23810	44		4-0	1-2
4	Blackburn Rovers	38	14	13	11	61	50	6	6	7	29	26	8	7	4	32	24	1.22000	41		2-1	3-0
5	The Wednesday	38	17	6	15	67	61	15	0	4	48	24	2	6	11	19	37	1.09836	40		1-2	0-3
6	Woolwich Arsenal	38	14	10	14	52	49	9	3	7	24	18	5	7	7	28	31	1.06122	38		0-1	2-1
7	Aston Villa	38	14	10	14	58	56	8	7	4	31	22	6	3	10	27	34	1.03571	38		1-2	2-1
8	Bristol City	38	13	12	13	45	58	7	7	5	24	25	6	5	8	21	33	.77586	38		1-1	1-2
9	Middlesbrough	38	14	9	15	59	53	11	2	6	38	21	3	7	9	21	32	1.11321	37		4-1	0-4
10	Preston North End	38	13	11	14	48	44	8	7	4	29	17	5	4	10	19	27	1.09091	37		1-1	1-1
11	Chelsea	38	14	9	15	56	61	8	7	4	33	22	6	2	11	23	39	.91803	37		2-1	1-2
12	Sheffield United	38	14	9	15	51	59	9	5	5	31	25	5	4	10	20	34	.86441	37		0-2	2-1
13	Manchester United	38	15	7	16	58	68	10	3	6	37	33	5	4	10	21	35	.85294	37		2-0	2-2
14	Nottingham Forest	38	14	8	16	66	57	9	2	8	39	24	5	6	8	27	33	1.15789	36
15	Notts County	38	14	8	16	51	48	9	4	6	31	23	5	4	10	20	25	1.06250	36		1-0	0-3
16	Liverpool	38	15	6	17	57	65	9	5	5	36	25	6	1	12	21	40	.87692	36		5-1	1-1
17	Bury	38	14	8	16	63	77	9	6	4	35	27	5	2	12	28	50	.81818	36		0-2	2-3
18	Bradford City	38	12	10	16	47	47	7	6	6	27	20	5	4	10	20	27	1.00000	34		2-1	1-1
19	Manchester City	38	15	4	19	67	69	12	3	4	50	23	3	1	15	17	46	.97101	34	Relegated	0-2	1-2
20	Leicester Fosse	38	8	9	21	54	102	6	6	7	32	41	2	3	14	22	61	.52941	25	Relegated	12-0	3-0

Points per win: 2

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LEAGUE POSITIONS

GOALS
Goals scored, conceded and win and loss margins

Goal count:	1 goal	2 goals	3 goals	4 goals	5+ goals
Scored	15 times	10 times	4 times	2 times	2 times
Conceded	16 times	11 times	5 times	2 times
Won By	8 times	3 times	3 times	2 times	1 time
Lost By	9 times	3 times	3 times	2 times

LEAGUE POSITION ANALYSIS
Analysis of the league positions
This table shows:
(a) how many days we spent in each of the league positions
(b) how we did when we played teams in each of the league positions.

Position days		Record against teams in each position
Forest Pos	Num Days	Opp Pos	P	W	D	L	F	A	Points	Results (Green=win; Blue=draw; Red=loss)
1		1	2	-	1	1	2	3	1	Everton (1-2), Newcastle United (1-1)
2		2	1	-	1	-	3	3	1	Everton (3-3)
3		3	3	-	1	2	2	9	1	Manchester United (2-2), Newcastle United (0-4), The Wednesday (0-3)
4		4	3	3	-	-	9	2	6	Sheffield United (2-1), Liverpool (5-1), Manchester United (2-0)
5	7	5	3	2	-	1	7	3	4	The Wednesday (1-2), Aston Villa (2-1), Sunderland (4-0)
6	14	6	3	2	1	-	6	2	5	Liverpool (1-1), Notts County (1-0), Middlesbrough (4-1)
7	12	7	2	1	1	-	3	2	3	Chelsea (2-1), Preston North End (1-1)
8	9	8	1	-	1	-	1	1	1	Bristol City (1-1)
9	7	9	1	-	-	1	1	2	0	Chelsea (1-2)
10	9	10	1	-	-	1	0	2	0	Manchester City (0-2)
11	8	11	4	1	-	3	4	6	2	Sunderland (1-2), Woolwich Arsenal (0-1), Bristol City (1-2), Blackburn Rovers (2-1)
12	15	12	1	1	-	-	3	0	2	Blackburn Rovers (3-0)
13	6	13	2	1	-	1	3	2	2	Leicester Fosse (3-0), Sheffield United (0-2)
14	9	14	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
15	29	15	1	1	-	-	2	1	2	Woolwich Arsenal (2-1)
16	9	16	3	-	1	2	3	5	1	Aston Villa (1-2), Preston North End (1-1), Manchester City (1-2)
17	71	17	1	-	-	1	0	4	0	Middlesbrough (0-4)
18	31	18	3	-	-	3	2	8	0	Notts County (0-3), Bury (2-3), Bury (0-2)
19	5	19	1	-	1	-	1	1	1	Bradford City (1-1)
20		20	2	2	-	-	14	1	4	Bradford City (2-1), Leicester Fosse (12-0)

GAMES

Manager for all games: Harry Hallam
League

Week	Date	Opponent	H/A	Score	Att	Pos	Scorers	Status
1	Sat Sep 05, 1908	Sheffield United	A	2-1	16,000	7	Marrison (?), West (?)
2	Sat Sep 12, 1908	Aston Villa	H	1-2	17,000	12	Hooper (?)
3	Sat Sep 19, 1908	The Wednesday	H	1-2	10,000	15	Morris (?)
4	Mon Sep 21, 1908	Chelsea	A	1-2	20,000	15	Marrison (?)
5	Sat Sep 26, 1908	Sunderland	A	1-2	18,000	19	Green (?)
6	Thu Oct 01, 1908	Liverpool	H	5-1	10,000	13	Hooper (?, ?), West (?), Morris (?, ?)
7	Sat Oct 03, 1908	Chelsea	H	2-1	19,000	11	Morris (?), Birch (?)
8	Sat Oct 10, 1908	Blackburn Rovers	A	3-0	15,000	7	Marrison (?), West (?, ?)
9	Sat Oct 17, 1908	Bradford City	H	2-1	10,000	6	West (?), Morris (?)
10	Sat Oct 24, 1908	Manchester United	A	2-2	15,000	5	Marrison (?), Birch (?)
11	Sat Oct 31, 1908	Everton	H	1-2	15,000	8	West (60')
12	Sat Nov 07, 1908	Leicester Fosse	A	3-0	20,000	6	Hooper (?, ?), Marrison (?)
13	Sat Nov 14, 1908	Woolwich Arsenal	H	0-1	10,000	9
14	Sat Nov 21, 1908	Notts County	A	0-3	14,000	10
15	Sat Nov 28, 1908	Newcastle United	H	0-4	10,000	12
16	Sat Dec 05, 1908	Bristol City	A	1-2	7,000	15	Green (?)
17	Sat Dec 12, 1908	Preston North End	H	1-1	8,000	14	Green (?)
18	Sat Dec 19, 1908	Middlesbrough	A	0-4	10,000	16
19	Fri Dec 25, 1908	Bury	A	2-3	14,000	18	Morris (?, ?)
20	Sat Dec 26, 1908	Liverpool	A	1-1	25,000	17	Whitchurch (?)
21	Mon Dec 28, 1908	Manchester City	H	0-2	12,000	17
22	Sat Jan 02, 1909	Sheffield United	H	0-2	10,000	17
23	Sat Jan 09, 1909	Aston Villa	A	2-1	18,000	17	Marrison (?), West (?)
24	Sat Jan 23, 1909	The Wednesday	A	0-3	8,000	17
25	Sat Jan 30, 1909	Sunderland	H	4-0	10,000	17	Hughes (?), Marrison (?), West (?, ?)
26	Sat Feb 13, 1909	Blackburn Rovers	H	2-1	10,000	17	Marrison (?), West (?)
27	Sat Feb 27, 1909	Manchester United	H	2-0	6,000	17	Marrison (?), West (?)
28	Sat Mar 20, 1909	Woolwich Arsenal	A	2-1	10,000	17	West (?, ?)
29	Wed Mar 24, 1909	Everton	A	3-3	1,500	16	Marrison (?), West (?, ? pen)
30	Sat Mar 27, 1909	Notts County	H	1-0	14,000	15	West (?)
31	Tue Mar 30, 1909	Bradford City	A	1-1	8,000	14	Whitchurch (?)
32	Sat Apr 03, 1909	Newcastle United	A	1-1	30,000	15	Morris (?)
33	Sat Apr 10, 1909	Bristol City	H	1-1	10,000	15	Gilligan (? OG)
34	Mon Apr 12, 1909	Bury	H	0-2	14,000	17
35	Tue Apr 13, 1909	Manchester City	A	1-2	3,000	17	Needham (?)
36	Sat Apr 17, 1909	Preston North End	A	1-1	4,000	18	West (?)
37	Wed Apr 21, 1909	Leicester Fosse	H	12-0	5,000	13	Hughes (?), Hooper (?, ?, ?), West (?, ?, ?), Morris (?, ?), Spouncer (?, ?, ?)
38	Sat Apr 24, 1909	Middlesbrough	H	4-1	8,000	10	Hughes (?), West (?, ?), Morris (?)	Safe

FA Cup

Date	Opponent	Round	H/A	Score	Att	Scorers
Sat Jan 16, 1909	Aston Villa	1	H	2-0	14,000	Hooper (?), Spouncer (?)
Sat Feb 06, 1909	Brentford	2	H	1-0	16,000	West (?)
Sat Feb 20, 1909	Millwall	3	H	3-1	20,000	Hooper (?), West (?, ?)
Sat Mar 13, 1909	Derby County	Quarter	A	0-3	16,000

Friendly

Date	Opponent	Country	H/A	Score	Att	Scorers
Tue Sep 15, 1908	Bradford Park Avenue	England	A	2-1	-	Shearman (?), West (?)

Date	Game Type	Opponent	Round	H/A	Score	Att	Scorers	League Status
Manager: Harry Hallam
Sat Sep 05, 1908	League Tier 1	Sheffield United		A	2-1	16,000	Marrison (?), West (?)
Sat Sep 12, 1908	League Tier 1	Aston Villa		H	1-2	17,000	Hooper (?)
Tue Sep 15, 1908	Friendly	Bradford Park Avenue		A	2-1	-	Shearman (?), West (?)
Sat Sep 19, 1908	League Tier 1	The Wednesday		H	1-2	10,000	Morris (?)
Mon Sep 21, 1908	League Tier 1	Chelsea		A	1-2	20,000	Marrison (?)
Sat Sep 26, 1908	League Tier 1	Sunderland		A	1-2	18,000	Green (?)
Thu Oct 01, 1908	League Tier 1	Liverpool		H	5-1	10,000	Hooper (?, ?), West (?), Morris (?, ?)
Sat Oct 03, 1908	League Tier 1	Chelsea		H	2-1	19,000	Morris (?), Birch (?)
Sat Oct 10, 1908	League Tier 1	Blackburn Rovers		A	3-0	15,000	Marrison (?), West (?, ?)
Sat Oct 17, 1908	League Tier 1	Bradford City		H	2-1	10,000	West (?), Morris (?)
Sat Oct 24, 1908	League Tier 1	Manchester United		A	2-2	15,000	Marrison (?), Birch (?)
Sat Oct 31, 1908	League Tier 1	Everton		H	1-2	15,000	West (60')
Sat Nov 07, 1908	League Tier 1	Leicester Fosse		A	3-0	20,000	Hooper (?, ?), Marrison (?)
Sat Nov 14, 1908	League Tier 1	Woolwich Arsenal		H	0-1	10,000
Sat Nov 21, 1908	League Tier 1	Notts County		A	0-3	14,000
Sat Nov 28, 1908	League Tier 1	Newcastle United		H	0-4	10,000
Sat Dec 05, 1908	League Tier 1	Bristol City		A	1-2	7,000	Green (?)
Sat Dec 12, 1908	League Tier 1	Preston North End		H	1-1	8,000	Green (?)
Sat Dec 19, 1908	League Tier 1	Middlesbrough		A	0-4	10,000
Fri Dec 25, 1908	League Tier 1	Bury		A	2-3	14,000	Morris (?, ?)
Sat Dec 26, 1908	League Tier 1	Liverpool		A	1-1	25,000	Whitchurch (?)
Mon Dec 28, 1908	League Tier 1	Manchester City		H	0-2	12,000
Sat Jan 02, 1909	League Tier 1	Sheffield United		H	0-2	10,000
Sat Jan 09, 1909	League Tier 1	Aston Villa		A	2-1	18,000	Marrison (?), West (?)
Sat Jan 16, 1909	FA Cup	Aston Villa	1	H	2-0	14,000	Hooper (?), Spouncer (?)
Sat Jan 23, 1909	League Tier 1	The Wednesday		A	0-3	8,000
Sat Jan 30, 1909	League Tier 1	Sunderland		H	4-0	10,000	Hughes (?), Marrison (?), West (?, ?)
Sat Feb 06, 1909	FA Cup	Brentford	2	H	1-0	16,000	West (?)
Sat Feb 13, 1909	League Tier 1	Blackburn Rovers		H	2-1	10,000	Marrison (?), West (?)
Sat Feb 20, 1909	FA Cup	Millwall	3	H	3-1	20,000	Hooper (?), West (?, ?)
Sat Feb 27, 1909	League Tier 1	Manchester United		H	2-0	6,000	Marrison (?), West (?)
Sat Mar 13, 1909	FA Cup	Derby County	Quarter	A	0-3	16,000
Sat Mar 20, 1909	League Tier 1	Woolwich Arsenal		A	2-1	10,000	West (?, ?)
Wed Mar 24, 1909	League Tier 1	Everton		A	3-3	1,500	Marrison (?), West (?, ? pen)
Sat Mar 27, 1909	League Tier 1	Notts County		H	1-0	14,000	West (?)
Tue Mar 30, 1909	League Tier 1	Bradford City		A	1-1	8,000	Whitchurch (?)
Sat Apr 03, 1909	League Tier 1	Newcastle United		A	1-1	30,000	Morris (?)
Sat Apr 10, 1909	League Tier 1	Bristol City		H	1-1	10,000	Gilligan (? OG)
Mon Apr 12, 1909	League Tier 1	Bury		H	0-2	14,000
Tue Apr 13, 1909	League Tier 1	Manchester City		A	1-2	3,000	Needham (?)
Sat Apr 17, 1909	League Tier 1	Preston North End		A	1-1	4,000	West (?)
Wed Apr 21, 1909	League Tier 1	Leicester Fosse		H	12-0	5,000	Hughes (?), Hooper (?, ?, ?), West (?, ?, ?), Morris (?, ?), Spouncer (?, ?, ?)
Sat Apr 24, 1909	League Tier 1	Middlesbrough		H	4-1	8,000	Hughes (?), West (?, ?), Morris (?)	Safe

	Possession %	On Target	Off Target	Corners	Fouls	Saves
Date	Opponent	Country	H/A	Score	Att	Us	Opp	Us	Opp	Us	Opp	Us	Opp	Us	Opp	Us	Opp
Tue Sep 15, 1908	Bradford Park Avenue	England	A	2-1	-

TRANSFERS
Transfers before, during and immediately after the season.

In (2) - £0				Out (4) - £0
Date	Player	Details	Fee	Date	Player	Details	Fee
	Fred Rowan	Bought			Arthur Green	Sold
May 01, 1908	William Birch	Bought			Billy Shearman	Sold
					Harry Linacre	Retired
				Dec 28, 1908	William Birch	Sold

SQUAD

*Age = Player age on August 1st					Season Record (Competitive Games only)
Pos	Num	Player	Country	Age*	P	W	D	L	Goals	Yellows	Reds	Went Off	Came On	Unused Sub	Notes
Goalkeepers
GK		Harry Linacre	England	28	34	14	4	16
Defenders
D		Edwin Hughes	Wales	23	41	16	8	17	3
D		James Iremonger	England	32	8	3	4	1
Midfielders
M		Billy Shearman	England	29	2		1	1
M		George Maltby	England		36	15	5	16
M		George Wolfe	England	29	26	7	7	12
M		Richard Butler			1	1
M		Thomas Gibson	Scotland	19	7	2	3	2
M		Walter Dudley	England	27	42	17	8	17
Forwards
F		Alf Spouncer	England	31	24	12	6	6	4
F		Arthur Green	Wales	26	6		2	4	3
F		Bill Hooper	England	24	41	17	8	16	10
F		Enoch West	England	22	38	17	5	16	25		1
F		Fred Rowan			1			1
F		George Needham	England		16	10	1	5	1
F		Grenville Morris	Wales	31	37	15	6	16	11
F		Herbert Whitchurch			8	2	3	3	2
F		Jack Armstrong	England	24	41	17	8	16
F		Thomas Marrison	England		40	17	7	16	10
F		William Birch	England		13	5	2	6	2

GOALSCORERS

Number of different scorers: 15

Goals (Pens)	Player	Games
25	Enoch West	38
11	Grenville Morris	37
10	Bill Hooper	41
10	Thomas Marrison	40
4	Alf Spouncer	24
3	Arthur Green	6
3	Edwin Hughes	41
2	Herbert Whitchurch	8
2	William Birch	13
1	George Needham	16
1	Own Goals	42

LEAGUE DOUBLES (FOR)
Home and away victories for the season

	Game 1			Game 2
Opponent	Date	H/A	Score	Date	H/A	Score
Blackburn Rovers	Sat Oct 10, 1908	Away	3-0	Sat Feb 13, 1909	Home	2-1
Leicester Fosse	Sat Nov 07, 1908	Away	3-0	Wed Apr 21, 1909	Home	12-0

LEAGUE DOUBLES (AGAINST)
Home and away losses for the season

	Game 1			Game 2
Opponent	Date	H/A	Score	Date	H/A	Score
Bury	Fri Dec 25, 1908	Away	2-3	Mon Apr 12, 1909	Home	0-2
Manchester City	Mon Dec 28, 1908	Home	0-2	Tue Apr 13, 1909	Away	1-2
The Wednesday	Sat Sep 19, 1908	Home	1-2	Sat Jan 23, 1909	Away	0-3